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 11-01-2008 03:02:05 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

Donna

Ok Jon going to reply once more to this then no more!
Pity you can't even stick to your word.

I have aided around 60 people in the last year
I also have aided around 60 people, IN THE LAST MONTH.

and yet not giving all the answers to the question you are putting Eft masters in a bad light!
What questions, I haven't been asked any questions.

http://www.eftmastersworldwide.com/findeftmaster.php
Barbara Smith South Island
Rehana Webster Waikato

These are the only 2 'Masters in NZ listed on this site. I have never heard of either of them, although they obviously exist, there are many other people in NZ who have certificates showing they are EFT masters, and traing people as such.

You claim to be a master in something you don't even use
I have a certificate that says I am an EFT master, but the whole point I am trying to make is that a certificate is all you need to call yourself a master, not only in EFT but many many other modalities, and that to me is wrong. Now if you wish to deny I have done the courses and have the certificate, then you are a fool. If you wish to deny I am a master, I am in complete agreement. I am no more a master of EFT or any other modality than a 2 y/o baby. Whenever I point out that I am a master in EFT, I am using it to point out the lunacy of the term 'master', because I am a supposed master of something I don't even use, but can if necessary.

Donna, as I said, for you to deny I have done the courses and have a certificate that says I'm a master is just foolish, for you to deny I am actually a master, is exactly what I am saying.
Your offensive remarks are just that, offensive and foolish. Your obsessive commentary on EFT is tireing. From my perspective, EFT is not for everyone and in fact when YOUR ego gets in the way to try and help people who don't want to be helped, that puts EFT in a bad light. Wake up to the REAL world, there are people out there who are actually doing work on a daily basis to help people with whatever tools they can find, most of them believe titles and qualifications are pointless, as I do. The key is the client and the help you can give them. I am not hung up on being an EFT master or a master sales trainer, or whatever 'master' certificates I have, I am much more driven to use the many tools I have to help people. EFT is one of those tools, although I haven't had the opportunity to use it. I have a councillor friend who uses it and she sees about 30 people a week, uses EFT whenever she can, and says about 30% sucess is what she gets. She also has other tools she uses, as do the 2 'masters' mentioned above, because she, like me, is trying to help her clients. She is not 'hung up' on EFT being the be all and end all.

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 11-01-2008 04:38:47 PM
donna
donna
From: United Kingdom
Jon wrote:
Donna

Ok Jon going to reply once more to this then no more!
Pity you can't even stick to your word.

ok you got me on that one your barrage of insults was enough to incite a reply.

I have aided around 60 people in the last year
I also have aided around 60 people, IN THE LAST MONTH.
I don't do this for a living only for those whom I meet who need and want help and can't afford to pay for it!

and yet not giving all the answers to the question you are putting Eft masters in a bad light
What questions, I haven't been asked any questions.
read the beginning of the thread think you will see the question you replied to (inadequately)

http://www.eftmastersworldwide.com/findeftmaster.php
Barbara Smith South Island
Rehana Webster Waikato

These are the only 2 'Masters in NZ listed on this site. I have never heard of either of them, although they obviously exist, there are many other people in NZ who have certificates showing they are EFT masters, and traing people as such.

This list is ALL the masters that have been trained as masters to Gary Craig's standard he is the founder of Eft! You not on it? Then you are not a master to these standards which I have already posted!

You claim to be a master in something you don't even use
I have a certificate that says I am an EFT master, but the whole point I am trying to make is that a certificate is all you need to call yourself a master, not only in EFT but many many other modalities, and that to me is wrong. Now if you wish to deny I have done the courses and have the certificate, then you are a fool. If you wish to deny I am a master, I am in complete agreement. I am no more a master of EFT or any other modality than a 2 y/o baby. Whenever I point out that I am a master in EFT, I am using it to point out the lunacy of the term 'master', because I am a supposed master of something I don't even use, but can if necessary.

This is exactly the kind of behaviour that belittles those who have passed Gary Craig's intense master courses! For although I too don't feel titles are necessary there is no denying that some people work hard to earn their titles and a lot of them deserve them. Maybe that's why you and your friend don't have as high a success rate when using Eft?

Donna, as I said, for you to deny I have done the courses and have a certificate that says I'm a master is just foolish, for you to deny I am actually a master, is exactly what I am saying.
Your offensive remarks are just that, offensive and foolish. Your obsessive commentary on EFT is tireing. From my perspective, EFT is not for everyone and in fact when YOUR ego gets in the way to try and help people who don't want to be helped, that puts EFT in a bad light. Wake up to the REAL world, there are people out there who are actually doing work on a daily basis to help people with whatever tools they can find, most of them believe titles and qualifications are pointless, as I do. The key is the client and the help you can give them. I am not hung up on being an EFT master or a master sales trainer, or whatever 'master' certificates I have, I am much more driven to use the many tools I have to help people. EFT is one of those tools, although I haven't had the opportunity to use it. I have a councillor friend who uses it and she sees about 30 people a week, uses EFT whenever she can, and says about 30% success is what she gets. She also has other tools she uses, as do the 2 'masters' mentioned above, because she, like me, is trying to help her clients. She is not 'hung up' on EFT being the be all and end all.

Oh I ain't hung up on that either but if you can teach me a method that wipes all trauma from rape in less than an hour then please I am open to learning.
If you can teach me a method that people can learn and carry out for themselves please feel free to share!

Last edited: 11-01-2008 04:51:37 PM

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 11-01-2008 08:49:03 PM
Jon
Jon
From: New Zealand

please feel free to show quote of were I have ever stated to be a master.
I never said you claimed to be a master

I would suggest you go tap on your ego
Your first rudeness

claiming something thats blatantly not the fact!
Your first insult


you don't read very well.
My rudeness in reply


Well maybe Anne can advise you not to take things so personally.
The only thing I have taken personally is you calling me a liar.

and can't give the answers to question asked
I still cannot find these supposed questions, please enlighten me.

obviously I think you are a liar and you think I am a liar so catch 22!
I have never said ‘you are a liar, just the statement about 90% success is a lie. There is a difference.

I said Now if you wish to deny I have done the courses and have the certificate, then you are a fool.Please explain to me how this is abusive.

I said Your offensive remarks are just that, offensive and foolish.
Or is this what you mean,I am talking about your remarks.

I said Your obsessive commentary on EFT is tireing.
5 threads all about you and EFT.

I said when YOUR ego gets in the wayYour words.

I said Wake up to the REAL world,
An insult, I’m sorry.

ok you got me on that one your barrage of insults was enough to incite a reply.
Please point out any insults, except the ones above and I will apologise

read the beginning of the thread think you will see the question you replied to (inadequately)I have read and re-read the thread and still cannot find these questions. By the way, whose opinion is inadequately


This list is ALL the masters that have been trained as masters to Gary Craig's standard he is the founder of Eft! You not on it? Then you are not a master to these standards which I have already posted! Your right, I’m not on these lists, and the person who I did my training with isn’t either. Perhaps they were not trained to Gary Craig’s standards. I don’t know.


This is exactly the kind of behaviour that belittles those who have passed Gary Craig's intense master courses!Does it? I don’t think so.

Maybe that's why you and your friend don't have as high a success rate when using Eft?Maybe your right, same as most people I speak to about EFT, including some on this board.

Oh I ain't hung up on that either
‘On a lighter more healing note I would like to invite you all to look up www.emofree.com it has a video you can watch and the manual is free to download no-one need buy DVDs unless they really want to and are then allowed to distribute up to a hundred copies free. This is the most powerful healing tool I have ever came across and I hope it helps all who read it! Its main attributes are the fotlowing, it is free, effective and puts the power to heal ourselves and others in our own hands and theirs!’
Posted 5 times, no, your not hung up on it.

If you can teach me a method that people can learn and carry out for themselves please feel free to share!
I can probably think of a couple, but as far as teaching you, I think the above says why I wouldn’t.

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 18-06-2008 02:53:46 AM
Zannie
Zannie
From: United Kingdom

I see that Gary Craig now has a new system in place for EFT training and the application of EFT.

I love watching things evolve in front of my eyes

zannie rose

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 3-01-2009 06:26:00 PM
Margaret
Margaret
From: United Kingdom
Carolyn wrote:
Hi everyone

I notice that there is (from quite a while back) a very interesting thread on the Psychology and Mind board (headed EMDR) that morphs into a discussion about EFT and I'm just wondering if anyone would like to pick up that thread on here?

Some really useful and interesting points I feel were made about EFT on that board - it's effectiveness or not etc etc - the role of the therapist - the procedure of the technique - and many other points, that I think might be interesting to have a chat about if anyone would like to share thoughts.

To kick things off here's my own experience with EFT so far.

I've been at EFT practitioner level for just over a year now. I added it into my tool kit as another option to mainly be brought in to psychotherapy sessions where it "felt" appropriate. I have found that at points of heightened distress in the client EFT can be an effective "calm down" without, of course, distracting the client from the underlying issue.

I have used it a few times as a stand alone therapy with reasonable success reported from the client.

What I have come to realise recently though (as we all do in our work through time and experience I guess) is that I have always felt something was "lacking" in my EFT work. I came to this conclusion through agreeing to be part of a filming process for an EFT master - so therefore I was the client. I experienced EFT in a completely different way during this. Not only because I was in a different role ( we will always feel different as a "recipient") but because the dynamics and application of EFT itself was so free, rapid and expressive by the particular therapist.

I appreciate and really do understand how the specific energy of the therapist, the client and the energy of the therapeutic tool used can all at some point combine so beautifully (whatever the modality) in a moment that "healing" occurs. Maybe this is what I experienced recently and it perhaps has been one of those events to assist my EFT and "therapist" development journey; which is cool and groovy.

Anyhow - keeping this at EFT if possible, I would love to hear anyone's thoughts about their own experiences/practice of EFT.

in love and light
Caz xx

Hi Caz
When I first heard about EFT from a college lecturer I tried it but thought very little of it, but in September 08 I found myself going on a course to learn level 1 of EFT, I have been using it on my self for various things and I have found it has quite profound effects, you don't have to believe how it works it just does, so continue tapping with confidence and believe in yourself.

Mags x

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