I was sent a link recently which was printed in the Gaurdian about soya in processed foods. Definately worth reading....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/story/0,,1828158,00.html

Last edited: 25-10-2006 07:35:33 PM

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Best to stay away from soy, unless it's fermented. Too much estrogen.

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Point taken Jon,

I didn't appreciate the difference between the fermented soy and the unfermented soya which is in 60% of all processed foods.
It makes sense to keep processed foods to a minimum from the nutritional, life force and additive perspective -but I for one was not aware of the damage that soya could do to the endocrine system.

Yet another reason to eat wholefoods so you have as much control over what you're eating as possible!

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Hi
I was wondering, and sorry if this sounds like a daft question, but what would fermented soya be? Is it different to normal soya? I ask this cos I have never heard of it specifically. We used to eat soya regularly but stopped about 18months ago because my husband read some negative stuff about it. We do have it on occasions now but I am curious about the alternative.
S

ps we generally bought it as a block to cook with (dont know if this makes a difference).

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Fermented soya in the traditional way has been fermented for a few months & comes as Miso and Tofu (as a block would have been tofu probably) There's also Tempi which is partly fermented I think, but be careful as apparantly some Miso can be made chemically and is therefore the same as non-fermented soya.
The fermentation process breaks down the isoflavines ,which cause the oestrogen effect. Hence why in Japan Soya is only eaten in a fermented form.
If you read the full article from the Gaurdian it explains it more in full,

Regards , Jayne

Last edited: 26-10-2006 10:40:16 PM

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Soy...?
Phyto eostrogens are just a small part of a much bigger problem from Soya beans!
Take a good look around Dr. Mercola's site for much interesting information on many health/nutrition/pharmaceutical issues!
Here is a starter for you!

http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm
David.

Last edited: 27-10-2006 12:21:47 AM

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Well,
certainly no Soya around here no matter in what form....I've got an allergy to it.... and boy you wouldn't believe just how much food contains it, or a derivative!!

Apparently its a very common intol/ allergy so I'm told.... so if you're out there suffering.... Soya could well be the culprit!

Lisa x

Last edited: 27-10-2006 08:52:37 PM

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Unfortunately in todays world, soy is usually GM.

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Oh! Now you've mentioned that word!

I have been against soya for the last 20 years and thank God there is so much more published about it now, such as on mercola.com, The Gerson Institute, Foresight and What Doctors Don't Tell You.

It is so cheap that it is used in everything under the guise of 8 different names, and is now classed amongst the 10 most allergenic foods to cause chronic disease. Apart from being mucous-forming it also contains 15-30 allergenic proteins.

That it is used so heavily in the food industry is one thing, but what about the cosmetic industry? I have to really search for a lipstick or handcream that does not contain it.

I would really recommend researching this cancerous substance and discontinue any use of it immediately!

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http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz

New Zealand based website that may be of interest to some.

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Trinity,

So glad you posted this! Soya is also known as vegetable oil, hydrogenated vegetable oil, hydrolised protein, lecithin, E471, E472, E322 and monosodium glutamate.

Monsanto, who are behind it all, must be having a good laugh at having conned so many thousands of people. Whilst the Japanese do not have an awful lot of breast cancer, they do have the highest rate of cancer of the oesophagus, stomach and spleeen.

Many people switch from dairy to soya and whilst this may temporarily address their problem, they usually end up with soya-related diseases instead - and there are lots of those.

Ann x

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