I really believe that we are not the only "beings of inteligence"
in this universe. The universe has and will always manifest
things and I think "beings" is one of them. I've never experienced
this personally as in see something.....however, I DO believe
the people that are brave enough to confess their stories!
There is also a lot of scientific evidence to back them up with
unknown objects found on their personal "being" that were
placed there consisting of unknown material.

Kind Regards & Blessings,
Jennifer Rog

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Hi Jennifer

Over the years, often in spiritual consultations for others, I have received information from people who have passed over, have had accurate information given by spirit guides (whose identities have been separately confirmed by other sensitives), have felt entities jumping onto me at night, and have received "channelled" information that has definitely not come from my imagination - to name but a few.

Many of these experiences have been corroborated by third party information, which I can detail if you're interested.

I've also had very clear "dreams" about certain 'alien' beings probing my mind for information (out of the blue), which have subjectively felt more real than just dreams.

These aren't aliens or UFOs, but I'm convinced they are "other-worldly" experiences, from other dimensions. (Over the years I've learned self-checking ways of making sure that its not just an overactive imagination playing tricks on me).

I suppose, by relating what I have in this post, I'm saying that I have no doubt that other beings exist in other dimensions and also this one. And I reckon, just as in every day life on earth, there are nice people and those you wouldn't want to bother with.

Discernment is the key - here on earth - and any other dimension you might care to explore!

Thanks for posting this topic.

Aannsha

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Great Topic Jennifer-
Of course we are not the only "intelligent" or sentient beings in the Universe (at least that is what I believe) Sometimes I feel like they are waiting for us to evolve a bit before they come and visit! As it stands now- given the attitude and policy of the World Leadership- and the basic fear based energy that is prevalent at this time- We would probably try to shoot them down- and of course, they know that.

However, I also know that there are many beings on this planet who are working very hard to evolve and to assist others in evolving as well. Cosmically speaking- humans are still in their "infancy" and we are growing and learning all the time!

Shine your light- Love, Paula

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Thanks for that, Jennifer. I just recently added this 'Aliens & UFOs' section to the Holistic Local forums. I wasn't entirely sure it was the best idea, because some people view discussion of these topics to be a little 'woowoo' and far out, even in the more open-minded metaphysical communities. I've always found that approach a little strange, however. If we can talk about spiritual reality and the afterlife, and accept the idea of invisible, non-physical energies that surround our physical bodies, then we should be able to discuss the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. I think that many people get too hung up on the 'conspiracy theories' that abound on the Internet (and elsewhere) about alien visitation of this planet, despite ample proof that there are indeed strange things going on in our skies. I think this field of study gets a lot of unnecessary bad press, and that has in the past presented obstables for more serious discussion of the UFO paradigm. If you haven't yet seen the Disclosure Project video, its worth watching

Jason.

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How can any rational person not believe that there is intelligent life somewhere in our universe? There are billions of suns with billions of planets orbiting them. Is it really possible that none of them are in the band, like Earth, where life is sustainable?
That we have not encountered any of these beings, likely but not necessarily true, is because of the vast distances between habitable planets.
As for life in other dimensions, or life after death, well that is probably more debatable. However there do appear to be strange things out there and, being human, I do hope that there is some form of life after death.

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True, although I think that the vast distances only seem so vast to us because we - as yet - have no way of traversing that distance within the span of our lifetimes. An ocean would seem as vast to somebody without a boat or plane. But I think that an advanced civilization would be able to employ technologies sufficiently capable of breaking down these distances, or rather the illusion of distance in quantum physical terms. There are also people who have reported being able to 'travel' to other planets near instantaneously during out-of-body experiences. I think our culture is still technologically very much in its infancy, despite any apparent progress we've made. So I don't think the question is necessarily one of "do any non-human civilizations possess FLT capability"? but rather "why would they choose to come here?"

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Jason,

Thank you so much for sharing with us The Disclosure Project! It was so interesting and if anything backs this theory up 100% of other "beings" out there.
I didn't have time to watch to the end...I will watch the other half tomorrow. I watched an hour of it...I kept on thinking how brave these men were to actually stand up in a room full of media and tell the truth......not knowing what the final outcome would be.....it's something I would have to think long and hard about doing......and doing it as a group was so much more powerful than just any one of these guys telling his story!

What an interesting topic for you to have created Jason.....it's something that is actually quite exciting to me because I've always had the "feeling" that there was more than just us.....sharing universal energy with all "beings" is quite fascinating!

Kind Regards & Blessings,
Jennifer

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I agree with you there Jason. Considering it was only in the 60's that we actually landed on the moon, and that from what I gather, was done without the computers that we know them today - more like calculators!

Other non-human (or, to throw another point in here - possible human ancestors) who have developed technologically, must surely be more advanced than we are. If that is the case, one might wonder if they did come here, how would they treat us?

Can we conceptualise this by considering how we in the "first world" treat those in the "third world"?

Would they watch us and wait to see how we develop, rather like adults viewing children with potential?

Would they offer assistance - or would that be against some "galactic code of non-interference"?

Would they want to plunder earth's resources for their own needs, enticing us into global debt in return for some perceived gain?

Would they want to experiment on us, as we do higher primates?

Or would they just fly on by, considering us a noisy, greedy, childishly arrogant, warring species in need of major maturity before they even consider contacting us?

I'd like to think they'd come on down, share their wisdom and offer a few energy-saving technologies by way of being beneficent, but would they make it past our governments paranoid responses?

LOL

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Hi Eveyone,

a new poster here. Ah, UFOs and Aliens. An interesting topic to be sure.
I am now reading a tremendously detailed and fascinating book called "Voyagers, The Secrets of Amenti, Vol. II", which gives a history of the human species going back about 600,000,000 years ago. It has a lot of detailed knowledge on Ascension mechanics and keylonta healing techniques, as well as DNA Activation. Really amazing if you can just read it with an open mind. According to the book, there have been and are still many groups of beings (the Ra Confederacy, the Elohim, for example) who have played a role in our evolution, including some 'not-so' friendly beings. Many of them are our human ancestors and some are even our future descendants.

I have read many books on the alien subject. This one is amazing, the best I have ever found, hands down.

Do I believe in life elsewhere in this dimension? Sure! As well in all 15 of them. If you are interested in this subject, I think that you will love this book. The author's name is Ashayana Deane. Be sure and get the 2nd Edition as it includes information about 9/11 and the future of our race.

Achello

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Hi Jennifer,

I'm much the same way. I tend to view life as a universal constant, and not as some kind of cosmic accident as is the prevailing viewpoint. However unpopular it might be, I'm firmly of the opinion that this planet has been the subject of ongoing Extra Terrestrial visitation for a very long time. I guess that sounds way too 'X-Files' for most people to take seriously, but they forget that many of the shows most important plot points actually derived from real theories about alien intervention.

For example: the idea that 'they' have altered our distant ancestors genetic templates to create a kind of hybrid race comes from theorists and scholars like Zecharia Sitchin, who has written volumes of information presenting evidence that this is indeed the case. Also, the Shamans of many indigenous races - including tribes in both South America and South Africa - all have passed down for generation after generation stories and legends of these 'visitors from the sky'.

There's also metaphysical 'evidence' of sorts to back up this idea: both out-of-body pioneer Robert Monroe and many of his students, including Bruce Moen, have seen a mass of alien 'ships' orbiting this planet during their astral travels. It should be noted here that the US Military took a long time interest in the activities of The Monroe Institute, and trained many Remote Viewers there during the height of the cold war. So it isn't just the product of an over-active imagination.

And we also have well known authors like Nike Pope, Whitley Strieber and Timothy Good presenting their own research into the subject matter. We've seen declassified reports proving conclusively that the Governments (of both the US and UK) know about the existence of UFOs (i.e. Project Blue Book), and yet they continue to deny this reality in mainstream statements tailor made for public consumption. It doesn't make any sense, but I guess it doesn't really matter. It's not like they tell the truth about anything else either!

Glad to hear you enjoyed The Disclosure Project video. Here's another really good video for you to watch (uhhh, if you want, hehe): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=671058863658375786

Jase.

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I love this topic! Right up my alley

I subscribe to the extraterrestrial hypotheses in that not only would we be rather arrogant to not believe in sentient beings living on other planets and/or in other dimensions, but I believe we have (and are) being visited by extraterrestrial biological entities (E.B.E.'s).

People argue that Einstein's theory on time/space travel makes it impossible for a body to travel faster than the speed of light (the only way to travel millions of miles through space in a fraction of the time). My argument is that our planet is relatively young, compared to those viable planets that evolved millions of years before ours and, therefore, progressive society and namely technology would have acquired the ability to travel through space and time at astronomical speed. It may be that E.B.E.'s have even managed to zip in and out of wormholes or *grids* in space, taking years off their travel time.

Many abductees describe beings appearing out of the corner of their bedrooms or through walls. This would imply they have knowledge of slipping in and out of dimensions.

If, and its a big IF, abductees are not being kidnapped and subjected to tests by E.B.E.'s then why is this phenomenon so prolific? People from as far back as medieval times spoke of "devils/demons" taking them from their beds. But, if we are not being taken, then why are so many people affected by this phenomenon.
What is going on??

As Arthur C. CLarke once said: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". A neanderthal, medieval, egyptian person would not have had the vocabulary and/or familiarity of an alien space craft or spaceman and could only perceive these craft as beings as "angels"/"gods"/"demons"

On the topic of the Disclosure Project - I have read many books, watched many documentaries but the DP was one of the most profound to date. I cried for hours after listening to Steven M. Greer - he wept because, if he is correct about governments using alien technology for war-mongering and not for the survival of starving millions, pollutant free fuels (the list goes on), then we are sadly and truly misguided.

I am fascinated by the disinformation technique that has slowly crept up on all of us over the decades. Disinformation, designed to deceive, mislead, through a myriad of "conspiracy" theories makes us all indifferent to the real picture, the true story. Concrete evidence, retrieved spacecraft - never seen - only heard of from
the testimonies of "witnesses" can never be verified - we only have their word for it. There was one time when, posed with a threat, you simply assassinated the threat. Now you can discredit someone, assassinate their characters, making them out to be kooks.

You could read thousands of books, watched thousands of films but at the end of the day, we are back to a belief system.

To quote Mulder (!!): "I want to believe"

Tracy.

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Hi every1

The discloser project is very disturbing in the sence that people from high class jobs all sware that encounters and contact with Aliens is very real. I have seen one of their conference on video and I got goose bumps.

I am convinced that we had technology dating back thousands of years due to archeologial finds which can not be explained such as model areolanes dating back 2000 years ago. The heiroglyphics of a helicopter areoplane and submarine and FLYING SAUCER TYPE OBJECT on the wall of an ancient temple in Egypt. Experts say it is formed by an erosion and cracks the if that was true other heiroglyphs would also dipict objects recognisable today for example a washing machine.

Lets say we had a washing machine, a dish washer and a tumble dryer, all house hold domestic applyiances that go hand in hand

As does the helicopter, submarine and areoplane .....all forms of transport.....a freak co-incedance?

Why don't we have an areoplane a bouncy castle and a hair dryer BUT NOT THEY ARE ALL ONE CATEGORY AS WELL.

I do not belive the so called EXPERTS I do belive ARCHEOLOGY and what archeologists have discovered above EXPERTS OPINIONS...I can see for myself and what I can see is

People do not like what they can not explain to they tend to MAKE UP excuses or try to find explanations hoping to SHUT US UP.

I am sure I read somewhere that Tutum Karmoan had a golden plate of an electronic circuit on his chest, when an engineer had put together the circuit (I think it was to fly a model plane if memory serves me) IT ACTUALLY WORKED

Look up Jonathun Gray's Dead mans secrets, it's all there and what a read it is!

I have had UFO encounters myself, not seen any physical aliens though but I have channelled with higher counciousness of some kind.

This is a megga subject for me I am glad we have a UFO forum it will be awsome

(apologise for bad spelling)

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Well, My Dear Jen...You certainly brought up a subject that stirred some emotions. YOU GO GIRL!

Love & Joy,
IndigoSpirit

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Ahh, Aliens and other worldly beings, I find the topic interesting to say the least. Look at all the possibilities....boggles the mind to lay in the grass on a warm summers night and stare up at the multitude of stars and wonder...hmmm.

One just has to ask themselves, "Why would the maker of all things just make us and why here"?

Many cultures all over this planet have stories of ET's or out worlders coming to visit us in our past, how can that be, when most of these cultures never even knew the other existed?

The Mayans depicted many times strange crafts, did they know the Egyptians? Did the Egyptians know the Dogan? The Dogan believed we were descendants of the Pleides and they lived in Africa.

How is it then that the Cherokee here in the USA have a story of the 7 brothers that danced until they went up into the sky, one was pulled down by his crying mother only to fall below the ground and her tears watered him until he became the cedar tree, but the other 6 brothers continued up in the heavens and can be see to this day in the heavens as the Pleides.

There are stories from other cultures that infact we are descendants of a race from that very cluster of stars and they are a water people, so we have many traits, such as a 9% salt solution in our blood and such a fondness for the water.

I for one, do not believe the Creator of us all simply made just one planet or a people to place on that planet. I agree, we are a young and imature race, and our brothers and sisters out there are patiently awaiting us to wise up.

Be well,

Terry 'Eaglefeather' Harrold

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Hello Eaglefeather

I have the same thoughts as you. Why would we be the only beings and the only Planet with life as we know it?

The water aspect might explain why so many of us like myself are drawn back to the Sea/Water, for me it is when I need to make an important decision and after a few hour's I know which path to take. It usually means a complete change in my life, either a new home, job, or relationship.

The Sea/Salt water also explains why salt and water are so important for our bodies to function healthily. So many conditions are the result of dehydration and could be avoided.

Sanat Kumara was said to have been sent from Venus to save our planet Earth in it's darkest hour. It is said he is the leader of the Illuminati. He is recognised by all major religions under various names. It is said he came to Earth with 144,000 souls from planet Venus in these included Jesus, Gautama Buddha and Maitreya Buddha. A shrine to him is situated in the town of Kataragama, Sri Lanka.

I also believe we are being watched by other dimensions to see what we will do to this beautiful Planet Earth we have choosen to live on.

Walking with spirit..... in Peace Love & Light


Morningflower (Nina)

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If you ask 10 poeple I bet one of them has seen a ufo.
I know I have seen at least 2 in my life.
Great question
Anna

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Iam a firm believer of exterrestrial life. I watched a UFO fly overhead when I was about 10 years old - when me and my friend told our teacher - he told me to stop being stupid and picked on me for the rest of the year. I used to hope that the aliens had seen him and would whisk him away!!!
I also dated a guy from London who had been pursued by aliens from his childhood - he was petrified that they would come back....if he saw something in the sky which resembled the UFO he would visibly shake with fear.
Poor guy.

My Nan who was 86 when she died, believed in them and her wish was to see one before she passed away....not sure if she ever did....

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I agree with you ! I don't have personal experience, but really
believe we are not all there is in the vast universe. I hope we find out
and can handle it, do good !

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Hi all,

With all the press coverage in the uk about sitings of "UFOs" in the national press, it does make you wonder. I myself from a logical perspective find it inevitable that we are the only form of life in the universe. There is life in the universe and it is taken for granted everyday... yes us. We live in the universe and do certainly exist.

But back to the nationals, granted it was the red tops (the Sun and the mirror), however it does fit the model of preparing the general population for the possibility whilst trying to keep a lid onthe mass panic.

The thing is that the events described were standard run of the mill istings and now they make national news as opposed to being ridiculed.

And on top of that, the recent (confirmed) findings of ice on mars certainly raise a question or two.

Keep an eye out in the news, I think we may be on the cusp of a change our general perception of our place our universal home.

Peace (earth based or otherwise)

Asif

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