| 10-12-2008 02:28:07 AM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste all, I recall a while ago the news that modern energy saving bulbs were toxic and hazardous appeared in the media for a couple of days. I was pretty shocked by this considering the push to use these bulbs and the complete lack of information on the dangers of them. If they break it is important to open a window and leave the room immediately. I was completely unaware of this at the time. Now I won't buy them (though I do buy full spectrum bulbs). Anyway, a couple of articles here. One on the hazards of the mercury and another detailing yesterday's EU ruling to have completely phased out older style of domestic bulbs by 2012. Mercury in Compact Fluorescent Bulbs More Hazardous than Previously Thought Source: Natural News Oct 21st, 2008 Environmental scientists and waste industry officials are warning that a massive shift to compact fluorescent light bulbs will lead to far more mercury contamination than has been widely supposed. Compact fluorescent light bulbs use mercury and heated gas to generate light, in contrast to traditional incandescent bulbs, which generate light by heating up a wire filament. The fluorescent bulbs have been touted as an important step in reducing energy consumption, because they use only half as much energy as incandescent bulbs and last nearly seven times as long. And while it has always been known that the mercury in the bulbs is a dangerous neurotoxin, it has been generally assumed that the bulbs are safe, since consumers are only exposed to the chemical if the bulb breaks. Emphasis by Neil - If a bulb does break, however, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) advises a complex, 11-step process for safely disposing of it. The room should be aired out for 15 minutes to dispose of any fumes, then the bulb should be picked up with gloves, placed in a double bag and disposed of as toxic waste. Duct tape should be used to do clean up residue, never a vacuum cleaner. The next time the area is vacuumed, the bag must be disposed of immediately. "It's kind of ironic that on the one hand, the agency is saying, 'Don't worry, it's a very small amount of mercury.' Then they have a whole page of [instructions] how to handle the situation if you break one," said Ellen Silbergeld of Johns Hopkins University, editor of the journal Environmental Research. Most consumers simply throw away compact fluorescent bulbs in the trash, Silbergeld said, where the bulbs will eventually break and release their mercury. But the waste industry has no plans for dealing with the expected influx as the bulbs become even more popular. "This is an enormous amount of mercury that's going to enter the waste stream at present with no preparation for it," she said.
EU to switch off traditional light bulbs by 2012 Source: EurActiv.com 9th December 2008. EU national representatives voted yesterday (8 December) to phase out energy-guzzling incandescent light bulbs and inefficient halogen bulbs between 2009 and 2012 in an effort to cut greenhouse gas emissions and improve energy security. The decision taken by a national expert committee endorsed a proposal by the European Commission to switch to more energy-efficient lighting. The Commission estimates that it will allow EU households to reduce their electricity use by 10-15%, saving up to 50 euro a year, a "balanced, realistic figure". There has been concern about the higher costs of more efficient lamps, but a longer lifetime and price reductions expected from more production and lifting of excise duties is expected to render them competitive. "This draft legislation is important not only for the energy savings it offers but for the very symbolic character for the citizen," said French Minister of State for Transport Dominique Bussereau, who chaired the meeting of European transport, telecommunications and energy ministers on Monday. The decision is an implementing measure under the EU's 2005 Eco-Design Directive, which aims to reduce the energy consumption of consumer products running on electricity. "These decisions will confirm the EU's leadership in the transition to a more sustainable energy future," Bussereau commented. According to the conclusions adopted by the energy ministers on Monday, these rules on the energy use and efficiency of consumer items like washing machines and refrigerators should be extended to a range of 'energy-related' items like insulation. If approved by MEPs in the first months of 2009, the 'eco-design' requirements for energy-using products would be updated to include the new product list. The Commission recommended broadening the scope of the directive in its July 2008 strategy on sustainable consumption and production (SCP), part of a wider strategy to 'green' the EU's product line. Scope of the decision The phase-out scheme only covers non-directional lights, emitting light equally in all directions. It also makes exemptions for some technologies, including halogens with specific lamp caps and special purpose incandescent lamps such as traffic lights and infrared lamps. This was justified as ensuring that EU citizens have access to the same standards they are used to while taking care that they do not end up with empty luminaires, which can only take a certain type of lamps. The new directive thus only bans incandescent light bulbs, Thomas Edison's invention, which are now regarded as last-century's technology due to their energy wastage. It sets minimum standards for energy efficiency and functionality. This gives consumers the choice between long-life compact fluorescent lamps yielding up to 75% energy savings compared to incandescent lamps, or efficient halogen lamps, which have the same light quality as traditional bulbs but provide only 25-50% savings. The shift away from incandescent lighting is likely to move light bulb production away from the EU. According to estimates, around 2,000 to 3,000 jobs will become redundant, mainly in Eastern Europe, where Hungary and Poland have big factories. However, the Commission says that that some of these jobs will move to halogen production and savings of five to ten billion euro from energy bills can be injected back into the economy to create new jobs. Today, 85% of lamps in European homes are inefficient in terms of their energy consumption. Many countries are planning to switch off their incandescent lights with US draft legislation in place for a 2014 deadline and plans already decided for countries as diverse as Australia and Cuba. If Europe does not make its move now, "all incandescent lights will end up being dumped into the EU," the Commission warned. Last edited: 10-12-2008 02:28:46 AM
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| 10-12-2008 05:35:33 AM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Hi Neil When I took my HK training, our instructor pointed out that she muscle tested a whole room full of people for the effects of the new 'twisted coil' energy efficient bulbs. EVERY SINGLE person had their energy system go weak while under the bulb, then it was strong again if the bulb was switched off. These bulbs scramble your energy circuits and create chaos in the body. I don't use them except in passgeways where people just move through. So in 2012 I guess I'll be stockpiling candles!!
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| 10-12-2008 06:22:28 AM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste Anna, anna wrote: When I took my HK training, our instructor pointed out that she muscle tested a whole room full of people for the effects of the new 'twisted coil' energy efficient bulbs. EVERY SINGLE person had their energy system go weak while under the bulb, then it was strong again if the bulb was switched off. These bulbs scramble your energy circuits and create chaos in the body. That is interesting Anna. Do you know why they did this, what it is about these bulbs? anna wrote: I don't use them except in passgeways where people just move through. So in 2012 I guess I'll be stockpiling candles!! Certainly before then I'll be stock piling the old type bulb. After they run out I'll be growing a lot more carrots!  Om Shanti Neil Quote |
| 10-12-2008 06:40:02 AM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Neil you made me chuckle!! We'll be like the pit ponies! As I understand it, it's the particular EMF radiation from fluorescent bulbs that humans don't like (you know how some people talk about the flicker rate giving them headaches?) If you think of how annoying it is when a fluoro bulb's about to go and it buzzes? Well, on a much higher frequency, it's buzzing away in your energy system (meridians etc) all the time. And we just don't like it, so the muscle tests weak, as an indicator of the whole body's response. When an energy system is in this weakened, chaotic state, immune function is depressed and we can suffer from 'fuzzy brain' symptoms, depression, allergies, you name it. These new domestic bulbs are, apparently, even worse than the tubes, because they are basically just a tube that's been twisted in on itself to make it smaller. So the energy coming out of it is even more contorted and chaotic. It's a big, noisy, fizzing mess. Just because the flicker is really quick, so not as annoying as old style tubes, doesn't make them harmless. They still really annoy our bodies, on a subtle level. I heard a really way-out consipracy theory that reckons the PTB are engulfing the planet in electromagnetic smog to keep us all stupid and docile (if the fluoride and mercury don't get us first). I don't know about that, unless they are all living in tinfoil-lined houses? Anyhoo, it's worth considering, because these bulbs do, IMHO make people function sub-optimally, at best. Here concludes today's class. Recess! Anna x Quote |
| 10-12-2008 07:22:10 AM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste Anna, A great response, thank you. anna wrote: Neil you made me chuckle!! We'll be like the pit ponies! Actually after all those carrots I'll be more like the guy from the Tango adverts. anna wrote: Well, on a much higher frequency, it's buzzing away in your energy system (meridians etc) all the time. Do you have any more detail on this? Such as how it affects them, any specific meridians in particular, exposure period, long term accumulated effects, countering it, etc. I thought it was bad enough having several mercury bombs in one's home that could break at any point and poison you. But add this to it and I think I'll be keeping the local candle merchant in business for the foreseeable future! anna wrote: I heard a really way-out consipracy theory that reckons the PTB are engulfing the planet in electromagnetic smog to keep us all stupid and docile (if the fluoride and mercury don't get us first). I don't know about that, unless they are all living in tinfoil-lined houses? If they are it seems to be working well, doesn't it! LOL Check out Miss Carolina, who unfortunately for her has became the poster girl for modern western (in particular American) stupidity. Sounds like the way-out theory could be to do with suggestions about HAARP Om Shanti Neil Quote |
| 10-12-2008 07:28:40 AM
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Yasmin
 From: United Kingdom |
anna wrote: I heard a really way-out consipracy theory that reckons the PTB are engulfing the planet in electromagnetic smog to keep us all stupid and docile (if the fluoride and mercury don't get us first). I don't know about that, unless they are all living in tinfoil-lined houses? Strange how it is always 2012 too ......mmmmmmm Quote |
| 10-12-2008 07:35:55 AM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste Yasmin, Yasmin wrote: Strange how it is always 2012 too ......mmmmmmm I have to say that I'm no believer in the whole 2012 thing, but I have noticed the date of 2012 popping up a heck of a lot. Seldom ever 2011 or 2013. What I have noted is that it is usually 2012 or 2020 that appears. Coincidence that 2012 is appearing a heck of a lot??? Send your answers on a postcard to... Om Shanti Neil Last edited: 10-12-2008 07:36:20 AM
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| 10-12-2008 11:49:03 AM
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Yasmin
 From: United Kingdom |
Neil wrote: I have to say that I'm no believer in the whole 2012 thing, but I have noticed the date of 2012 popping up a heck of a lot. Seldom ever 2011 or 2013. What I have noted is that it is usually 2012 or 2020 that appears. Coincidence that 2012 is appearing a heck of a lot??? Send your answers on a postcard to... And of course digital TV being the biggie..... Quote |
| 10-12-2008 12:11:47 PM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Hi Neil Give me a bit of time to devise a short, pithy explanation, it's a complex subject, which fascinates me! Did you know Clarins, the 'beauty' people, recently brought out a face and body spray which they claim protects against EMF radiation. Decidedly unquackish, mainstream company, so one has to wonder what they know? Laters! Anna x Quote |
| 10-12-2008 01:19:39 PM
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Jon
 From: New Zealand |
anna wrote: Hi Neil Give me a bit of time to devise a short, pithy explanation, it's a complex subject, which fascinates me! Did you know Clarins, the 'beauty' people, recently brought out a face and body spray which they claim protects against EMF radiation. Decidedly unquackish, mainstream company, so one has to wonder what they know? Laters! Anna x The whole system, not just a few meridians, is affected. Particulars are really not necessary, as there are too many things that are adversely affected by fluro bulbs. I would really like to test this make-up Anna, it's not arrived in NZ yet. Neil, Miss Carolina has been standing under too many fluro bulbs, don't be too hard. Quote |
| 10-12-2008 03:24:22 PM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Jon You're right of course, there are many factors in the whole body vs EMF situation, but there are ways of limiting the damage, right? Funny, last year I was planning on putting together a small booklet, sort of layperson's guide to not getting totally zapped in everyday life. I figured nobody would read it, but now, I'm not so sure. I may keep researching! The spray was being handed out as test samples last time I looked. If I can find one I'll happily post you one? It's only a tiny spray bottle, about 2mls/ Anna Quote |
| 10-12-2008 09:25:27 PM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste Anna, anna wrote: Funny, last year I was planning on putting together a small booklet, sort of layperson's guide to not getting totally zapped in everyday life. I figured nobody would read it, but now, I'm not so sure. I may keep researching! I think plenty of peple would be interested, though maybe many of the folk here, particularly the HK practitioners are already familiar with the info. But other folks, like me, don't know much about this topic. If you are planning on free distributing the leaflet eg online, then there are free document sites such as Scribd Om Shanti Neil Quote |
| 11-12-2008 12:30:12 AM
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Jon
 From: New Zealand |
Hi Anna, I'm not sure there ARE limiting factors for everything, eg. poison. It really is a very individual thing. Also, some people do not seem to be affected, does that mean they aren't or is there a cumulative effect that shows up later? It is a problem I run into more and more. Quote |
| 11-12-2008 06:36:26 AM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Hi Jon, who knows what the body is capable of really? I heard that if you take tiny doses of poison over a period of time, you can survive a deadly dose. That's the basis of homeopathy, right? Nobody would suggest quaffing pints of cyanide, but you can hardly put EMFs in that category! I don't know about people who seem unaffected. There seems to be a sad lack of people dying of healthy old age these days, they all seem to fall to bits! Neil, I do take all this stuff very much for granted, which is wrong of me. I'll check out the site you mention and see what could be done. I'm starting homeschool again from next term, so time becomes precious again, still, it would make a great school project! Anna x Quote |
| 11-12-2008 08:23:29 AM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste Anna, anna wrote: Neil, I do take all this stuff very much for granted, which is wrong of me. I'll check out the site you mention and see what could be done. I'm starting homeschool again from next term, so time becomes precious again, still, it would make a great school project! Even any recommended websites would be useful if you, or anyone else, knows of them. Good luck with the homeschool. I didn't know if people did that over here, I think you are the first I have ever heard of doing it in Scotland. Good for you! And your kids!  Om Shanti Neil Quote |
| 11-12-2008 11:34:37 AM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Neil There's a small yahoo group of home-edders here, though nothing in Perthshire as far as I can see. That's okay, we're a big, anti-social family, I can go it alone! It's going to be mostly digging and planting, and playing with the chickens, should be great. I notice in England you TELL the school you are deregistering, but in Scotland you have to ASK permission, though they can't reasonably refuse. Quite a distinction! There's a book by Becker called 'Body Electric' and another called 'Cross Currents', they are both good and I'm sure he has a website now. The famous book 'Safe as Houses' has a free e-book version, and I think the website has the same name. I think those are good places to start. The Safe as Houses tends to lump EMF (electromagnetic frequencies)pollution in with GS(geopathic stress)/laylines (earth energy pollution), which makes it extra useful, in my view. You can also check out the Coghill research lab (sorry, you'll need to Google it), they do a lot of research into EM radiation and have brought out a product called Asphalia, which is designed to strengthen the body to raise its tolerance to these artificial frequencies. The Q-Link pendant is similar, designed to transform the EM radiation into 'Schumann' waves, which are harmonious to the body. Their website is useful. The Healthy House website was designed for people with multi-chemical sensitivity, but they've got into EMFs in a big way. EMF pollution and allergies are closely linked. People who are 'allergic to everything' almost always need corrections for 'rogue' electric currents in their body, in kinesiology. Also the Centre for Implosion Research are a mine of info, and produce the very beautiful vortex energiser coils and mini jewellery quality coils filled with 'imploded' water, which is water that's been put through a precise vortex, to mimic the action of natural streams, which naturally energise and clean water. Let me know if you can't find any of these and I'll work a bit harder! Oh and check out Towerbusters or Cloudbusters on Google, they are groovy little (and big!) homemade devices for transforming the EM energy into orgone energy (synonomous with Chi or Prana). People plant them under pylons to help the earth adjust to all this new EM energy and help keep people near the pylons healthy. I'm going to start making them and planting them under trees, nature's transmitters, but that's just me... Sorry, that's a big wodge of chaotic information, I've gone a bit stream-of-consciousness, think I'm hungry, so I'll stop now. Enjoy! Anna x Quote |
| 11-12-2008 02:07:39 PM
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Neil
 From: United Kingdom |
Namaste Anna, This is great, thank you! Plenty of info to chase up, all of which is pretty new to me. Much appreciated.  Again, best wishes with the home schooling. Hope you make the kids call you Miss during school hours!  Om Shanti Neil Quote |
| 12-12-2008 10:56:41 AM
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Jon
 From: New Zealand |
anna wrote: Hi Jon, who knows what the body is capable of really? I heard that if you take tiny doses of poison over a period of time, you can survive a deadly dose. That's the basis of homeopathy, right? Nobody would suggest quaffing pints of cyanide, but you can hardly put EMFs in that category! I don't know about people who seem unaffected. There seems to be a sad lack of people dying of healthy old age these days, they all seem to fall to bits! Hi Anna, tiny doses and homeopathy, well perhaps, byt tiny doses can have a cumulative effect as well. I DO put EMF's in the same category as cyanide, that's where I see a problem. A little poison is OK, but a lot is not, sorry, NO poison is better. Quote |
| 12-12-2008 01:29:19 PM
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anna
 From: United Kingdom |
Hi Jon Not really sure what you're getting at, though obviously the less a body has to contend with, and compensate for, the better it's going to do. The important thing, I think, given that the world is hopelessly polluted with all sorts of stuff, is that there are people around like the HL community who are able to help, with tools to facilitate healing and progress! Anna x Quote |
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