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Although Jocelyn's post doesn't really say anything (!) I would like to add something...

The other day I bought a bottle of 'natural flavour spring water' in a supermarket...and bought a flavoured one by mistake! I didn't realise my mistake until I took the first glug of it, and was horrified by the cloggy sweet taste! Yukk! On further inspection, I discovered this sweet taste was provided by acesulfame K.

"Acesulfame Potassium (K) was approved for use by the FDA as a safe artificial sweetener in July, l988. It is a derivative of acetoacetic acid. Unfortunately, several potential problems associated with the use of acesulfame have been raised. They are based largely on animal studies since testing on humans remains limited. The findings showed the following:

Acesulfame K apparently produced lung tumors, breast tumors, rare types of tumors of other organs (such as the thymus gland), several forms of leukemia and chronic respiratory disease in several rodent studies, even when less than maximum doses were given. According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest, it was petitioned on August 29, l988 for a stay of approval by the FDA because of "significant doubt" about its safety."

OMG.

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Ahhh...Jocelyn's playing tricks again!

Secondly....yukk! Shock horrors Helen, at the thought of the taste, when you were expecting something else!!

And finally...OMG also!!

Ann X

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Please excuse short reply -( my 4 month old son has taken a liking to the keypad)

this came up on another forum y'day where they were endorsing splenda as being much nicer than aspartame not having the aftertaste .....having done a quick search there are claims its 'natural' (.whatever that means)...anyone know for sure?

ps Jocelyn ..... where did you go? Come back!

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Oh no Jayne!!

Splenda is lethal - on a par with aspartame! I can send you info if you give me your email address.

I wonder where Jocelyn is?

Ann x

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I have to disagree Ann, splenda is WORSE than aspartame, and is much more carcenogenic.

Who is Jocelyn, and why is she here....wait a minute...who am I....and why are you all staring at me?????

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Cos you're so gorgeous Jon!

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Ann wrote:

Cos you're so gorgeous Jon!

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he has that effect on everyone Ann

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Ann, your lovely, but Asif.......he's the MAN

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There is a lot of love going on in here!!

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Debbie wrote:

There is a lot of love going on in here!!

Jon's nickname "dr Lurrrrrrrrve" after all!

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Asif, you're enjoying yourself too much!!

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"lurrrrve is the answer" to use a famous quote.... I'm all for it, but thats another story...

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Calm down Asif! before Jon gets here!!! x

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Wow.. there really is love in here!!!!

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Sorry folks, not quite got the hang of using this noticeboard, I have been very surprised at how much Aspartame is used in 'diet' products, and on USA websites how dreadful the side effects can be, I have been buying Xylitol as a safe sugar substitute but few people seem to know about it. Most of the bottled lemonade is sweetened with Aspartame, same for fruit cordials, and manufacturers info is so small. Is anyone lobbying manufacturers to get them to look again at what is going into the nations guts, with possible longterm problems, however safe they say it is at the moment? Or am I just getting paranoic about something v minor ?

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I don't believe that manufacturers even care sadly. It is all about money and the governments are the same. They only seem to do anything when they are forced to so lobbying does surely move these things somehwhat along.

Look how long it has taken some countries to ban public smoking. It wasn't that long ago (early 90s) when I was complaining abut the smoking in my office (a bank) making my asthma bad. I was told that it was 'his' right to smoke and it was my problem. A director at the company (who also heard about my complaint ) told me that asthma is a nervous condition and it was all in my head!! The government in the UK were always relunctant of course to ban public smoking because of the amount of revenue from taxes and how that would be affected

The best thing we can all do is research ourselves and eat what we feel is safe.

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Not heard of the Xylitol before - will search for info on it, I do know about the natural stevia alternative though not tried it - I use honey, molasses or maple syrup.

I do agree Debbie about taking responsibility for our own health - although there is the problem that the sugar free foods are marketed as being healthier and better for teeth etc - so children who have no choice are being made to ingest the poison - same for when they inhale their parents second hand smoke.
Hopefully more and more people will become aware of the implications for health

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I have seen Xylitol before in Waitrose. I have not bought it but have read some about it before.

I agree Jayne. Parents just have to take responsibilty about what their children are eating and to teach them but some parents wont have that knowledge and so the children are being 'poisoned' as you have stated. It is very sad to me that the people (in authority) that can make a difference to people's health, often don't.

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You can't force people to be healthy. It's a free world & we can all go to hell in our own way. Believing that 'this is good for you' and 'that is bad for you', and trying to bulldoze others into our way of thinking - and blaming them when they don't - sometimes makes us very judgmental. That is why I feel the govts should back off a bit. They stress 'rights' and 'wrongs' & insinuate that all who don't follow this are somehow 'bad people', and this creates a society that judges & creates social ostracism - as in the case of smokers. Live & let live.

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